IRC log started Sun Apr 16 00:00:01 2000 k sorry there are hundreds of ideas i could listen to, and many papers i could read, but i don't have the time to waste [msg(TUNES)] permlog 2000.0416 -:- lar1 [larman@adsl-63-203-74-81.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net] has joined #tunes np.. it wasn't so much a suggestion for tunes as a query for advice ;) ok well make sure you look at how maude models concurrent oo g'night folks hm? Later, eihrul hey when are you gonna rewrite eval.lisp? unless you have any departing words water, i'm off :) 12:10am rmm, tomorrow? ok good enough for me -:- SignOff eihrul: #TUNES ([x]chat) cya monday night 12:20am -:- SignOff lar1: #TUNES (BeOS -- BRB) -:- Connection closed from irc.us.openprojects.net: Success -:- Connecting to port 6667 of server irc.us.openprojects.net [refnum 0] -:- Your nick [TUNES] is owned by tunes@bespin.dhs.org -:- BitchX+Deb1an: For more information about BitchX type /about -:- Welcome to the Internet Relay Network TUNES_ (from norton.openprojects.net) -:- Your host is norton.openprojects.net, running version u2.10.05.18.(ipcheck4-5) (from norton.openprojects.net) -:- This server was cobbled together Wed Apr 28 1999 at 13 24:47 EDT(from norton.openprojects.net) -:- norton.openprojects.net u2.10.05.18.(ipcheck4-5) dioswkfcg biklmnopstv -:- [local users on irc(12)] 1% -:- [global users on irc(402)] 44% -:- [invisible users on irc(504)] 56% -:- [ircops on irc(21)] 2% -:- [total users on irc(906)] -:- [unknown connections(0)] -:- [total servers on irc(33)] (avg. 27 users per server) -:- [total channels created(318)] (avg. 2 users per channel) !norton.openprojects.net Highest connection count: 17 (16 clients) !norton.openprojects.net Welcome to Open Projects! You are on 5 ca 1(2) ft 14(14) tr. -:- Mode change [+f] for user TUNES_ -:- Mode change [+iws] for user TUNES_ -:- TUNES_ [tunes@bespin.dhs.org] has joined #tunes -:- Topic for #TUNES: TUNES, Free Reflective Computing System: http://www.tunes.org/ || Slate Tutorial (in progress): http://www.tunes.org/~water/slate-tutorial.html -:- topic set by water [Fri Apr 14 13:41:49 2000] -:- [Users(#tunes:10)] [ TUNES_ ] [ water ] [ XeF4 ] [ abi ] [ hcf ] [ smkl ] [ zarq ] [ Fare ] [ coreyr ] [ TUNES ] -:- Channel #tunes was created at Sun Feb 28 08:48:06 1999 -:- BitchX+Deb1an: Join to #tunes was synced in 9.525 secs!! [openprojects]!norton.openprojects.net Net break: sterling.openprojects.net huxley.openprojects.net (Ping timeout) [openprojects]!norton.openprojects.net Net junction: irc.linux.com huxley.openprojects.net [openprojects]!norton.openprojects.net Completed net.burst from huxley.openprojects.net. 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[openprojects]!norton.openprojects.net sterling.openprojects.net acknowledged end of net.burst. -:- lar1 [larman@adsl-63-203-74-81.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net] has joined #tunes [openprojects]Foreign OperKill: NickServ killed zdt (This nick is reserved by another user) -:- hcf_ [nef@me-portland-us639.javanet.com] has joined #tunes -:- SignOff hcf: #TUNES (Leaving) -:- hcf_ is now known as hcf (looking at slate..) this reflection goes much, much deeper than what I am working on heh yeah and i haven't detailed a lot of my plans on it yet the latter is just static modules with some refletive "glue" reflective, even k any questions/comments? read the tutorial? (though incomplete) not yet i haven't uploaded the stuff on the reflective bits yet 01:30am (in the tutorial) 01:40am -:- SignOff XeF4: #TUNES (off) hm maybe gmol's really not coming back this time 02:00am -:- SignOff smkl: #TUNES (Ping timeout for smkl[glubimox.yok.utu.fi]) -:- smkl [sami@glubimox.yok.utu.fi] has joined #tunes [openprojects]!norton.openprojects.net Net break: sterling.openprojects.net clarke.openprojects.net (Ping timeout) -:- NetSplit: clarke.openprojects.net split from sterling.openprojects.net [02:19am] -:- BitchX+Deb1an: Press Ctrl-F to see who left Ctrl-E to change to [clarke.openprojects.net] [openprojects]!norton.openprojects.net Net break: irc.linux.com sterling.openprojects.net (Ping timeout) [openprojects]!norton.openprojects.net Net junction: varley.openprojects.net sterling.openprojects.net [openprojects]!norton.openprojects.net Completed net.burst from sterling.openprojects.net. 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[openprojects]Foreign OperKill: NickServ killed iceman (This nick is reserved by another user) [openprojects]Foreign OperKill: NickServ killed Dazman (GHOST command used by Darreb) -:- eihrul [lee@usr5-ppp213.lvdi.net] has joined #tunes [openprojects]Foreign OperKill: NickServ killed burt (This nick is reserved by another user) [openprojects]Foreign OperKill: NickServ killed compuAFK (GHOST command used by compuboy2) [openprojects]Foreign OperKill: NickServ killed robrock (GHOST command used by robrock_) [openprojects]Foreign OperKill: NickServ killed sgore (This nick is reserved by another user) [openprojects]Foreign OperKill: NickServ killed shinjisan (This nick is reserved by another user) [openprojects]Foreign OperKill: NickServ killed shado (This nick is reserved by another user) -:- hcf [nef@me-portland-us1016.javanet.com] has joined #tunes -:- lar1 [larman@adsl-63-203-74-81.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net] has joined #tunes [openprojects]Foreign OperKill: NickServ killed compuboy (GHOST command used by compuboy2) [openprojects]!norton.openprojects.net ddent adding GLINE for cepyxk@modemcable164.42-200-24.mtl.mc.videotron.net, expiring at 955913203: SubSeven Trojan Horse [openprojects]Foreign OperKill: NickServ killed Bill (This nick is reserved by another user) [openprojects]Foreign OperKill: NickServ killed Bill (This nick is reserved by another user) -:- SignOff lar1: #TUNES (Ping timeout for lar1[adsl-63-203-74-81.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net]) -:- SignOff smoke: #TUNES (Ping timeout for smoke[16dyn136.delft.casema.net]) [openprojects]!norton.openprojects.net Net break: forward.openprojects.net pohl.openprojects.net (Ping timeout) [openprojects]!norton.openprojects.net Net junction: varley.openprojects.net pohl.openprojects.net [openprojects]!norton.openprojects.net Completed net.burst from pohl.openprojects.net. [openprojects]!norton.openprojects.net pohl.openprojects.net acknowledged end of net.burst. -:- smoke [smoke@16dyn136.delft.casema.net] has joined #tunes [openprojects]Foreign OperKill: NickServ killed MysticOne (This nick is reserved by another user) [openprojects]!norton.openprojects.net ddent adding GLINE for cepyxk@modemcable164.42-200-24.mtl.mc.videotron.net, expiring at 955917374: SubSeven Trojan horse hohum [openprojects]Foreign OperKill: NickServ killed MysticOne (This nick is reserved by another user) 12:50pm hmm, google added lang support [openprojects]Foreign OperKill: NickServ killed kenny (This nick is reserved by another user) 01:00pm [openprojects]Foreign OperKill: NickServ killed burt (This nick is reserved by another user) !lilo:*! 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For more information, please email support@openprojects.net. abi: do it is "how programmers do it" at http://www.cc.gatech.edu/people/home/kirill/programmers.html 01:50pm [openprojects]!norton.openprojects.net ddent adding GLINE for bbs@develop.21cn.com, expiring at 955920330: Excess clones [openprojects]!norton.openprojects.net ddent adding GLINE for bbs@202.104.76.5, expiring at 955920379: Excess clones -:- lar1 [larman@adsl-63-203-74-81.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net] has joined #tunes -:- SignOff hcf: #TUNES (Ping timeout for hcf[me-portland-us1016.javanet.com]) -:- hcf [nef@me-portland-us942.javanet.com] has joined #tunes -:- SignOff smoke: #TUNES (z) [openprojects]Foreign OperKill: NickServ killed burt (This nick is reserved by another user) -:- SignOff lar1: #TUNES (Leaving) -:- lar1 [larman@adsl-63-204-135-209.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net] has joined #tunes [openprojects]Foreign OperKill: NickServ killed Mike_W (GHOST command used by Mike_W_AFK) [openprojects]!norton.openprojects.net Link with gaarder.openprojects.net cancelled: Ping timeout [openprojects]!norton.openprojects.net Net break: norton.openprojects.net gaarder.openprojects.net (Ping timeout) [openprojects]!norton.openprojects.net Link with gaarder.openprojects.net[@207.153.61.215] established. 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[openprojects]!norton.openprojects.net jordan.openprojects.net acknowledged end of net.burst. -:- SignOff hcf: #TUNES (Leaving) [openprojects]Foreign OperKill: NickServ killed LaGgEr (This nick is reserved by another user) -:- Closing Link: TUNES_[bespin.dhs.org] by norton.openprojects.net (Ping timeout for TUNES_[bespin.dhs.org]) -:- Connection closed from irc.us.openprojects.net: Success -:- Use /Server to connect to a server -:- Connecting to port 6667 of server irc.us.openprojects.net [refnum 0] -:- Your nick [TUNES_] is owned by tunes@bespin.dhs.org -:- BitchX+Deb1an: For more information about BitchX type /about -:- Welcome to the Internet Relay Network TUNES__ (from king.openprojects.net) -:- Your host is king.openprojects.net, running version u2.10.05.18.(ipcheck4-5) (from king.openprojects.net) -:- This server was cobbled together Wed Apr 28 1999 at 12 02:19 EDT(from king.openprojects.net) -:- king.openprojects.net u2.10.05.18.(ipcheck4-5) dioswkfcg biklmnopstv -:- [local users on irc(78)] 8% -:- [global users on irc(465)] 47% -:- [invisible users on irc(526)] 53% -:- [ircops on irc(23)] 2% -:- [total users on irc(991)] -:- [unknown connections(0)] -:- [total servers on irc(33)] (avg. 30 users per server) -:- [total channels created(344)] (avg. 2 users per channel) !king.openprojects.net Highest connection count: 102 (101 clients) !king.openprojects.net Welcome to Open Projects! You are on 5 ca 1(2) ft 14(14) tr. -:- Mode change [+f] for user TUNES__ -:- Mode change [+iws] for user TUNES__ -:- TUNES__ [tunes@bespin.dhs.org] has joined #tunes -:- Topic for #TUNES: TUNES, Free Reflective Computing System: http://www.tunes.org/ || Slate Tutorial (in progress): http://www.tunes.org/~water/slate-tutorial.html -:- topic set by water [Fri Apr 14 18:53:34 2000] -:- [Users(#tunes:9)] [ TUNES__ ] [ eihrul ] [ zarq ] [ smkl ] [ lar1 ] [ TUNES_ ] [ abi ] [ Fare ] [ coreyr ] -:- Channel #tunes was created at Sun Feb 28 08:48:06 1999 -:- BitchX+Deb1an: Join to #tunes was synced in 8.975 secs!! -:- SignOff TUNES_: #TUNES (Ping timeout for TUNES_[bespin.dhs.org]) !^lilo:*! Hi all. Rasmus Lerdorf, the author of PHP, is currently on our new channel, #php. Please feel free to drop by. :) [openprojects]Foreign OperKill: NickServ killed LaGgEr (This nick is reserved by another user) [openprojects]Foreign OperKill: NickServ killed EVIL7 (GHOST command used by EVIL7_) [openprojects]!king.openprojects.net Net break: irc.linux.com norton.openprojects.net (Ping timeout) [openprojects]!king.openprojects.net Net junction: sterling.openprojects.net norton.openprojects.net [openprojects]!king.openprojects.net Completed net.burst from norton.openprojects.net. [openprojects]!king.openprojects.net norton.openprojects.net acknowledged end of net.burst. 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[openprojects]!king.openprojects.net norton.openprojects.net acknowledged end of net.burst. -:- Downix [unknown@dialup-209.245.104.79.Manchester1.Level3.net] has joined #tunes [msg(TUNES)] newlog 2000.0417 TUNES: No such nick/channel [msg(TUNES)] permlog 2000.0417 TUNES: No such nick/channel -:- hcf [nef@me-portland-us100.javanet.com] has joined #tunes -:- SignOff Downix: #TUNES (Ping timeout for Downix[dialup-209.245.104.79.Manchester1.Level3.net]) -:- Downix [unknown@dialup-209.245.104.79.Manchester1.Level3.net] has joined #tunes * Downix/#tunes hates Windows internet it keeps idling out -:- SignOff Downix: #TUNES (Downix has no reason) 12:10am [openprojects]Foreign OperKill: NickServ killed parks (This nick is reserved by another user) [openprojects]!king.openprojects.net Net break: irc.linux.com norton.openprojects.net (Ping timeout) -:- SignOff eihrul: #TUNES ([x]chat) [openprojects]!king.openprojects.net Net junction: irc.linux.com norton.openprojects.net [openprojects]!king.openprojects.net Completed net.burst from norton.openprojects.net. 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For more information, please email support@openprojects.net. -:- ColonelPanic [doneill@cr904653-a.poco1.bc.wave.home.com] has joined #tunes Gakuk kukaG salut ca va? oui bon se connait-on deja/ ? i have no idea what you just said. hehe oh i learned very little french in school when i actually went to school which even though was some time ago je parler tres moins francais do you know the tunes project? nope can you describe it? 08:40am I already have, in a FAQ: http://tunes.org/Tunes-FAQ.html coo I would also answer your remaining questions here, but I gotta go maybe other people can answer them. * Fare/#Tunes is away to a meeting wow -:- eihrul [lee@usr5-ppp221.lvdi.net] has joined #tunes is this development at hardware level or low level operating system? Yes I realize it's OS but will this be for standard i386 hardware? tunes is not an OS atleast not in the common sense tunes is not about bolting things down to the hardware and by the time its done the i386 will probably be long dead i was going to say it looks like a hellova lot of work are you serious about metaprogramming? yes heh still need a logo without a logo... tsk tsk hehe although, everyone's vision of what tunes exactly is is a point of debate shrug, why do we nneed a logo? as of yet, we're a vaporware project 4 or 5 years in the running... we don't deserve a logo so there's no code as of yet? i see missing maintainers for many sections sure, there's lots of code 08:50am just none of it concentrated into an official tunes yet many people have put code into their own personal vision of tunes ye you're missing the package hehe but the web page should answer a lot of questions about what a tunes would be like if it ever existed well the papers lack one thing, comprehension. to be honest the name alone isn't well thought of for the common idiot such as myself and gives me the impression it's one of those contractions that nobody remembers what they really mean you know how many people don't know what CVS stands for? * eihrul/#tunes sighs. tunes isn't about bringing itself down to the common idiot heh that's why it will never make it. tunes is about empowering everyone from the PhD in CS to the common idiot * eihrul/#tunes shrugs. whatever hey apple windows tunes is not trying to be a popularity contest tunes is not trying to gain a market share tunes is just trying to be a reflective, meta-programmable computing system if you don't want to use it when it does exist, fine with me because i know i will another problem is the entire idea is theoretical uh, so? self modifying code is an infant right now at best even then... uh, no way hmm take voice recognition we get most of our practice from theory, unfortunately voice recognition studies started in the 1950's it never worked, but they tried to this day it's still a baby * eihrul/#tunes shrugs. your point? that's a relatively simple concept even in today's day and age ColonelPanic: simple yes and uncohesive. compared to metaprogramming voice recog is poo on a stick uh, if you want to see a meta-programming system there are plenty of them my point is you will probably be dead by the time tunes reaches a usable level almost every concept in tunes has been developed and practiced in isolation 09:00am to a signifigant degree hoe significant how lisp for instance has been meta-programmable for decades what good is lisp? and reflective in a way metaprogrammable to what degree umm, does that question need to be asked? [openprojects]Foreign OperKill: NickServ killed dhd (This nick is reserved by another user) well sure lisp is a VERY powerful language for every answers you should expect at least 2 questions =sigh= as in to the degree where you can treat your code as a tree of data alright and output another tree of code is data in its place but still lisp requires user interaction -:- overfien [overfien@c288852-a.frndl1.wa.home.com] has joined #tunes yoh uh... it can modify itself as can any parcel of code if written right all languages require user interaction to get anything done lisp is made for metaprogramming well then how intelligent is that bah it makes it natural and simple you're saying you want a computing environment which has been accomplished for years and very expedient -:- ColonelPanic [doneill@cr904653-a.poco1.bc.wave.home.com] has left #tunes [] sheesh people. hit-and-run cynics... never fails you explain tunes to someone and they run off, scared... 09:10am -:- SignOff overfien: #TUNES (init 0 fjear it yoh) [openprojects]Foreign OperKill: NickServ killed next (This nick is reserved by another user) !^lilo:*! Please welcome our newest refugees from EFNet, the #php people :) Rasmus Lerdorf stopped by 40Ksec or so ago, which was cool :) !^lilo:*! Also, let's not forget the friendly folks on #perl :) !NickServ:*! ^lilo used GETPASS on gabe [openprojects]Foreign OperKill: NickServ killed Cgabriel (This nick is reserved by another user) [openprojects]!king.openprojects.net Net break: varley.openprojects.net mccaffrey.openprojects.net (Read error to mccaffrey.openprojects.net[209.186.235.100]: Connection reset by peer) -:- bla [a@uu212-190-12-195.unknown.uunet.be] has joined #tunes -:- SignOff bla: #TUNES (Leaving) [openprojects]Foreign OperKill: NickServ killed DraX (GHOST command used by DraX_) -:- SignOff coreyr: #TUNES (reboot) -:- _out [magsilva@200.201.30.133] has joined #tunes -:- thomas [thomas@193.217.63.152] has joined #tunes hi lo 10:50am what's up, eihrul? 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